HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D

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HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D

Postby tokeyo83 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:00 am

Make: Hot Bodies
Model: Hiracchi TC-H :twisted:

Date: 6/4-5/2011
Track surface: (Arai) Smooth Concrete / Cal Smooth Asphalt
Tire: Yokomo Zero1 R2 / HPI Type T's
Motor & ESC: Novak 8.5 & Speed Passion LPF GT 2.0

Front

Camber: -6.5 deg
Toe: 0 toe-in
Kick up: 2mm
Caster hubs: 4 deg
Ride height: 6mm
Springs: Yokomo HSS Black (Super Soft)
Bumper weight: none
Trailing Steering Block: stock
Sway-Bar: none
Shock Oil: Yokomo 150
Other:
  • D-Like 40T pulley :twisted:
  • front bulkhead is spaced up 2mm's
  • R2H battery holder spaced up 3mm
  • running a 1deg pivot block up front
  • stock Cyclone S belt (169T)
  • Yokomo SSG SD steering rack :twisted:
  • Yokomo DRB C-clip CVD's
  • Yokomo DRB Front A-arms
  • Yokomo BD5 4deg C-hubs
  • Front ( FF &FR) pivot blocks are raised 1mm up for more roll :!:

Rear

Camber: -8
Toe: 2.5 deg
Kick up: 2.5mm (RF block)
Ride height: 12mm
Springs: Yokomo HSS Blue (Soft)
Sway-Bar: none
Shock Oil: Yokomo 200wt
Other:
  • 60T rear belt
  • Rear pivot blocks are raise by 1mm for more roll :twisted:

Drive Train

Gearing: Front: 40T/14T Rear: 20T/32T
Front: One-way
Center: Oneway FC/Solid RC
Rear: Solid
Spur: 82T (48p)
Pinion: 20T (48P)
Other: 40T D-Like, D-Like 14T, 20T Yokomo, Atomic 32T

Other:
  • Tamiya 3 hole pistons all around
  • Front & Rear Bulheads, and Motor mount is spaces up 2mm (for more roll) :twisted:



Front Shock position
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Front Camber link position ^Front links are parallel to the a-arms
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Rear shock position
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Rear Camber link position^Rear links get higher towards the center of the chassis (lets the rear roll a bit more)
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Idler pulley
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ESC & Motor
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Yokomo SSG SD Steering Rack
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Thank you Hiracchi san |O| :up:
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Re: Hot Bodies Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D

Postby DorkyMK3 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:52 am

|O| Super Sick!
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Re: Hot Bodies Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D

Postby danhfvcsd » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:30 am

nice work man :D How does it drive? :)
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Postby tokeyo83 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:37 am

danhfvcsd wrote:nice work man :D How does it drive? :)


it's really stable. even with a low cs % i get pretty good cs. im thinking of adding weight here and there like katsumi's BD-H (BD5 w horizontal battery :twisted: ). with a little more tuning it'll be awesome :D
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Re: Hot Bodies Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D

Postby artica » Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:06 pm

How did you accomodate the front belt in regards to the battery?
Pics?

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Re: Hot Bodies Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D

Postby tokeyo83 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:46 pm

artica wrote:How did you accomodate the front belt in regards to the battery?
Pics?


the belt runs under the battery, the battery holder is shimmed up 3mm's and i still have more room to go up or fit a taller battery. i'm thinking of shimming it up more so i can get more roll :twisted: . i shimmed up the front bulkheads 2mm's. i'm using a 40T pulley up front, if you use a 39t pulley instead, you will have to shim your fr &ff pivot block up 1.5mm's. the idler pulley near the motor lets the belt stay flat along the chassis.

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Re: Hot Bodies Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D

Postby tokeyo83 » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:02 am

Added the steering rack and tested it on wed's cal drift jam, works great :twisted:

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Re: HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D w OTA-R31 FR Sus.

Postby tokeyo83 » Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:23 pm

Added OTA-R31 Front suspension :twisted:

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Re: HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D w OTA-R31 FR Sus.

Postby psychopat » Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:42 am

ahhh! nnice. cant wait to see it!

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Re: HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D w OTA-R31 FR Sus.

Postby vongperson » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:14 am

what's the advantage to the ota-r31 suspension? more steering angle?
and are u running the ota-r31 cvd also?

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Re: HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D w OTA-R31 FR Sus.

Postby tokeyo83 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:35 pm

vongperson wrote:what's the advantage to the ota-r31 suspension? more steering angle?
and are u running the ota-r31 cvd also?


more steering angle and less cvd rattle, just need to modify my steering rack a bit to get more steering :lol: . yup running the r31 cvds, kinda have to, it uses a diff bearing on the inside and a reg cyc cvd bearing on the outside :twisted:
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Re: HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D w OTA-R31 FR Sus.

Postby beetledrift » Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:22 am

cool!
any vids of it running?

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Re: HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D w OTA-R31 FR Sus.

Postby boza » Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:31 pm

that's Awesome!

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Re: HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D w OTA-R31 FR Sus.

Postby marq » Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:30 am

DANG Ulz!! That looks so sick!!! I might have to try this out! Haha
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Re: HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D w OTA-R31 FR Sus.

Postby Fabio_Floripa » Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:43 am

you are the first that i saw setup with camber bigger on rear thant front.
i was trying made my setup this week and saw that for me also rear camber have to be bigger than front to drive in asphalt.
nice , have any vid running?
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Re: HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D w OTA-R31 FR Sus.

Postby tokeyo83 » Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:00 pm

marq wrote:DANG Ulz!! That looks so sick!!! I might have to try this out! Haha


lol thanks, it's pretty easy setting up the battery tray just need to drill the holes, luckily i had Masa's TC-D chassis for reference. If you need help drilling holes hit me up ;)

Fabio_Floripa wrote:you are the first that i saw setup with camber bigger on rear thant front.
i was trying made my setup this week and saw that for me also rear camber have to be bigger than front to drive in asphalt.
nice , have any vid running?


I only ran more camber in the rear because of the 12mm offset wheels :twisted: no vid yet doing more changes.

Gonna get rid of the R31 suspension and go back to stock cyc suspension or switch to TCX front a-arms (longer). Switch out my stock cyc cvd's to the new Yokomo C-clip type cvds :twisted:
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Re: HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D

Postby marq » Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:35 am

Awesome! Yah dude, your help would definitely be needed :mrgreen: I'll try to stop by Arai next week (going to Vegas this weekend).
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Re: HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D w OTA-R31 FR Sus.

Postby danhfvcsd » Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:13 am

tokeyo83 wrote:Yokomo C-clip type cvds :twisted:


please enlighten me about these? :D
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Re: HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D w OTA-R31 FR Sus.

Postby tokeyo83 » Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:28 am

danhfvcsd wrote:
tokeyo83 wrote:Yokomo C-clip type cvds :twisted:


please enlighten me about these? :D


The new DRB cvds don't require having a set screw to hold the pin in, instead it is held in with a fat c-clip. This helps for a smoother full lock. From what I've seen on this forum and many others is that people are complaining about full lock chatter. From what I take from Katsumi is, people tend to over tighten the set screw so the pin won't fly out, but doing so you bend the cvd pin. The first gen cvd's used 1.5mm pins, and most of the complaints were Yokomo chassis'. Yok released the 2mm pin cvd's not as many complaints but still there. And from reading threads on grip forums, mostly the cyclone section, is that some of the racers don't use set screws to hold the pin in for smoother cvd's. Instead they use an alum diff out drive cover(?) that fits perfectly over the cvd and covers the pin and holds it in (the pink alum part, not sure if that's the exact part they use but it looks the same thing :D ) And after running the OTA-R31 front suspension, their cvd's also don't have a set screw holding it in the pin is held in with the inner bearing on the knuckle. The R31 cvd is smooth as cluck :lol:
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Re: HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D

Postby danhfvcsd » Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:24 am

ahhh - i want some of those too now hahaha Pity they didnt come on the new DRB kit tho! :Sick:
*edit* Just ordered a set for both DRB's :lol: *end edit*

So where's the vid of this ride? hahaha
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Re: HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D

Postby tokeyo83 » Mon May 02, 2011 8:37 pm

Changes in red

Swapped out the front CVD's to the Yok c-clip ones :twisted: (just had to shim it .75mm, I think, for a snug fit) :D
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But can't get more than -7deg of camber :evil: and I looked at the TCX arms and they are the same length as the TC's :down: I need a longer a-arm to get more camber :lol: So hopefully Yok front DRB a-arms will fit :twisted: :lol:
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Re: HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D

Postby danhfvcsd » Tue May 03, 2011 12:57 am

lol - how long are the arms you have at the hinge pin man? Will be able to measure mine for you and see if it will work =)

oh, and let us knw how they go? mine are in the post now =)

*At the Inner (longest) hinge pin, the arms in the front are abooooout 29-29.5mm, front to back...
*At the Outer (shortest) hinge pin, the arms in the front are 23.5mm, front to back...
*From Outer Hinge pin to Inner Hinge pin is aboooout 52mm...

Too lazy to take the arms off and get proper measurements, sorry :lol:, but it should be pretty close - the outer hinge pin measurement is pretty much bang on tho =)
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Re: HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D

Postby tokeyo83 » Wed May 18, 2011 6:00 am

Updates are in red and updated shock positions
included pictures of the camber links as well.

Thanks danhfvcsd :up:

Swapped in the DRB a-arms and c-hubs. Fits the Cyc chassis w some shims/spacers. They are almost the same length from hinge pin to hinge pin :lol: maybe a bit shorter :lol: but it works gained another deg of camber :twisted: Need more off throttle over so I either need to make another 15T center oneway or just take the plunge and get a D-Like 14T oneway :lol:
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Re: HB Cyclone TC-H (Hiracchi Style) :D

Postby cooper_xl » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:47 pm

Nice work..BTW, where do you got the white turnbuckles?

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Postby tokeyo83 » Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:01 pm

cooper_xl wrote:Nice work..BTW, where do you got the white turnbuckles?


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