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antinnous' Yokomo DIB

Postby antinnous » Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:25 pm

Make: Yokomo
Model: DIB

Date: 10/06/12
Track surface: Smooth asphalt
Tire: Vertex VDR-03
Motor & ESC: Hobbywing Xerun 8.5t sensored & Xerun 60amp 2.1 esc
Battery: 96mm Lipo (216g)
Radio: Sanwa MT-4 w/ Telemetry

Front:
Camber: -9*
Toe: 2* out
Kick up: n/a
Caster hubs: OverDose 6* caster/*8 camber
Ride height: 9mm
Springs: Vertex progressive Green spring rate 89 ~ 94gf/mm
Bumper weight: n/a
Trailing Steering Block: OverDose
Sway-Bar: n/a
Shock Oil: 70wt lucas
Other: one-way, 3 hole valve, normal rate

Rear:
Camber: -.5*
Toe: 0*
Kick up: n/a
Ride height: 10mm
Springs: Vertex progressive Blue Spring rate 67 ~ 88gf/mm
Sway-Bar: n/a
Shock Oil: 25wt lucas
Other: spool, 3 hole valve, normal rate

Drive Train:
Gearing: 2.00 // 100.00%
Front: 40t
Center: 15t/15t
Rear: 20t
Spur: 116t
Pinion: 37t
Other: n/a

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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby Sir Slide Alot » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:49 am

What the wheelsbase?
because i see you shaved the rear arms quite a bit.

nice silver |O|
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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby antinnous » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:07 pm

Sir Slide Alot wrote:What the wheelsbase?
because i see you shaved the rear arms quite a bit.

nice silver |O|


wheel base was shorted through the rear down to 251mm, wheel nut center to wheel nut center. (1* toe out front, 0* toe rear)

thanks! may re-anodize to a another color in the future though.
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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby Sir Slide Alot » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:00 am

that short must be aggressive to drive. :wtf:
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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby antinnous » Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:45 am

it did become a lot more aggressive, especially with the addition of having 0* toe in the rear, but im able to drive it pretty consistently. lately i changed the damper positions, and messed with weight distribution again.

still doing more adjustments, car is having minor trouble with long sweeps.
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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby antinnous » Sat Sep 29, 2012 8:35 pm

edited op
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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby sliding_josh » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:59 pm

were can i get the FBD belt and Pulleys from?

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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby antinnous » Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:32 pm

sliding_josh wrote:were can i get the FBD belt and Pulleys from?

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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby GenkiRF » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:05 am

What wires are those that you are running, and if possible where would I be able to pick some of it up? I've been looking for a while for similar ones, but no dice as of yet. They have been popping up on cars quite a bit lately, and really clean a car up imo.
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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby NW Drift » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:11 am

Looks like some 12 gauge speaker wire.
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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby GenkiRF » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:20 am

I've been thinking that too, but I just want to know for sure. I've seen it a lot on Japanese drift videos, but this is the first time I have seen someone run anything similar over here. I know RE-Xtreme runs it on his cars as well, but he said he picked it up from a local shop in Japan and doesn't know of any online places to find it. In videos I have seen it in a transparent red and blue as well, and it really looks great on the cars I saw. I am not the greatest when it comes to knowledge about wires and stuff, so figured no harm in asking!
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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby NW Drift » Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:46 am

I'm pretty sure they are all using car amp/speaker wire. Just go down to your local car audio store and they should have a nice selection in different gauges and colors. It's meant to handle more power than you would ever put through a drift car anyway and would work fine. No point in ordering online and waiting a week or paying extra for shipping when you can walk into a car audio store and buy any length you need for dirt cheap.
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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby vimal » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:33 am

I really wish I had the cash to buy a DIB :) that chassis looks off the hook!



NW Drift wrote:I'm pretty sure they are all using car amp/speaker wire. Just go down to your local car audio store and they should have a nice selection in different gauges and colors. It's meant to handle more power than you would ever put through a drift car anyway and would work fine. No point in ordering online and waiting a week or paying extra for shipping when you can walk into a car audio store and buy any length you need for dirt cheap.


:shock: I don't trust that theory... I can't imagine car audio wire being that thick and having that much strands of copper in it to handle the amount of amps going to the motor from the esc...

Can anyone else confirm this theory?
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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby GenkiRF » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:41 am

There has always been a debate about running speaker wire on RC cars. 12 gauge is 12 gauge no matter what, a higher thread count only allows for the wire to be more flexible, not carry more current. The difference occurs in the wires ability to dissipate heat. Silicone wire dissipates heat very well, while speaker wire is typically insulated with PVC so it runs a risk of overheating. Some say it has come a long way and speaker wire is safe to run, only if you use high end speaker wire, while some swear that it isn't. That's why I have been trying to ask those that run this type of wire, "what is it?". This is the first I have seen of it used on a stateside chassis, and man, what a wiring job. The chassis looks sick.

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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby natronbm2006 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:16 pm

nice chassis man, please tell me what belt you are running on your motor drive pulley system

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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby antinnous » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:01 am

GenkiRF wrote:What wires are those that you are running, and if possible where would I be able to pick some of it up? I've been looking for a while for similar ones, but no dice as of yet. They have been popping up on cars quite a bit lately, and really clean a car up imo.

The wires are Indeed Speaker wires. 12 awg/ gauge, tinned copper clad aluminum.
if you're state side, im willing to sell 3ft (double strand / 6ft total) for 8 bucks shipped.

natronbm2006 wrote:nice chassis man, please tell me what belt you are running on your motor drive pulley system

12t/36t = 135mm belt (3.00 drive ratio)
12t/37t = 138mm belt (3.08 drive ratio)
12t/38t = 141mm belt (3.16 drive ratio)
12t/39t = 144mm belt (3.25 drive ratio)
12t/40t = 144mm belt (3.33 drive ratio)
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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby antinnous » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:23 pm

i wasnt happy with the ride height so i changed the ball end to a tamiya end, and trimmed 3mm. i got another 2mm in ride height which is just right for me.
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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby extremetuner » Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:44 pm

Hey, i have an idea. If you are gonna change color. Make it gold. DIB Gold Edition!
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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby antinnous » Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:42 am

extremetuner wrote:Hey, i have an idea. If you are gonna change color. Make it gold. DIB Gold Edition!


im not too partial to gold anymore. ill be staying silver, but with some work added to it.
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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby grapejuice » Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:05 pm

Is the Lucas oil you are using the Associated oil? And have you to tried the battery in the rear position?
I'm working on getting my car set-up with a good starting point.

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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby antinnous » Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:24 pm

grapejuice wrote:Is the Lucas oil you are using the Associated oil? And have you to tried the battery in the rear position?
I'm working on getting my car set-up with a good starting point.


yes the lucas oil is from team associated.
I could put it in the rear, but then I would put ballast weight in the front, if not, i would have to set droop in the rear. I tend to like my chassis have a 60/40 weight distribution for more angle. these settings are already old, i changed it a bit, but recently my center bulk head melted from a seized bearing, so its getting a complete makeover.
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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby FunkRenegade » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:27 am

Box stock with softer springs all around is all you need. Don't screw in the rear lower shock mounts all the way, so you get decent amount of droop. Batteries range from under 200 grams to over 300 grams, so pack a 6000mah in there, and the balance will be perfect. Trust me on this, and drive it first.
grapejuice wrote:Is the Lucas oil you are using the Associated oil? And have you to tried the battery in the rear position?
I'm working on getting my car set-up with a good starting point.

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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby grapejuice » Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:36 am

FunkRenegade wrote:Box stock with softer springs all around is all you need. Don't screw in the rear lower shock mounts all the way, so you get decent amount of droop. Batteries range from under 200 grams to over 300 grams, so pack a 6000mah in there, and the balance will be perfect. Trust me on this, and drive it first.
grapejuice wrote:Is the Lucas oil you are using the Associated oil? And have you to tried the battery in the rear position?
I'm working on getting my car set-up with a good starting point.


Yeah, I ordered softer springs with the kit and thats what I put on it...I was trying to get a feel for oil weights since I'll be using Losi oil (I'm a TLR driver for electric offroad). I'll be driving it for the first time Thursday and will have both batteries with me to try out.

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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby FunkRenegade » Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:25 pm

"setting" up the car even before getting a good feel of the baseline makes no sense. You want to find out what the car needs in terms of tuning.

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Re: rwdanthony's DIB // Yokomo // FBD

Postby antinnous » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:18 am

I completely agree with funk, grape.
you need to figure out what your car needs with your own driving style. everyones setup is usually different, though similar.
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