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Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby Murdock » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:38 pm

MST? What is that you may say. Well MST short for Max Speed Technologies a company that opened it doors in 2010 in Taiwan. MST is making high quality parts and chassis, and I am honored to present you the MS-01D Pro Kit! Based off the MS-01D base model the Pro kit comes with Front One Way, Aluminum Shocks, Motor Mount & Bulkhead assembly, Servo Mounts, and Spur holder. As an added bonus it comes with Disc Brake Hex Hubs and Calipers along with CS pulleys to achieve 1.54, 1.67, and 1.82 ratios. For my first Hop Up parts I got Solid Rear Axle, Aluminum Steering Rack with added angle, Hard Compound tires.

Opening the box it reminded me of all the high end brands. The packaging is top notch. The manual is in both English and Chinese, and the pictures are clear and easy to understand. Plastic quality is nice and OEM grade, I don't know if they offer graphite option. The build took me 6 hours. I would like to eventually upgrade to the CF main chassis, along with the aluminum bulkheads. The MSRP is $359.

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MS01D OEM wheels 3mm offset.
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MST Hard compound tires 3 degree camber
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MST Medium compound tires 3 degree camber
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The Build!

It start with Bag A which includes all screws, but bag letters order does not stay in alphabetical order.
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Bag J includes bulkheads
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MS01D Pro stock bulkheads.
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Bag P is rear belt tensioner pulley parts.
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Bag Q includes spur gear and belts.
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Spur gear mounted.
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Bag B includes bumper, shock oil, and battery strap O-Rings.
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Bag E includes stock pulleys.
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Counter Steer pulleys and front belt added bonus!
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Bag D includes Front One Way assembly.
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MST Hop Up part Solid Rear Axle 7075 Aluminum.
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MST Hop Up part Aluminum Steering Rack with more angle.
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Bag M includes CF top braces.
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Ball H includes ball end pieces.
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Bag G includes suspension arms.
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Bag F includes shock parts.
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Shock fully assembled with factory oil (30wt).
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Bag K includes shock towers and standard plastic motor mount bulkheads.
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Bag L includes turn buckles.
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Bag I includes Disc Brake Hex Hubs and axle hubs four steering knuckles are used.
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60 degree steering angle!
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Bag C includes bumper parts and body posts.
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Aluminum Servo Mount.
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Counter Steer Baby!
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Bag N includes the Battery Tray.
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Completed Chassis!
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Steering Angles!!!
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Added feature! Real looking disc brake calipers along with disc brake hex hubs.
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Added feature! Factory Counter Steer pulleys. 13T/18T - 54% CS.
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The Build was really fun, and educational! The suspension arms do not use a conventional suspension arm with axle. This design is double A-Arm design pivoting on ball end collars. I hope I explained that correctly. LOL Thanks for looking!
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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby Calzone » Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:25 am

Looks nice, but several things are bothering me. No adjustable droop, reversed ackerman stock, and seriously, plastic lowerdeck and carbon upperdek? :down:

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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby tokeyo83 » Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:08 am

Calzone wrote:Looks nice, but several things are bothering me. No adjustable droop, reversed ackerman stock, and seriously, plastic lowerdeck and carbon upperdek? :down:


The reversed ackerman could be because of the picture being taken from the rear of the front bulkheads.

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What caster setting did you go with? 4, 7, 10, and 14 that's pretty good adjustability out of the box :up:
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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby Murdock » Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:57 am

Calzone wrote:Looks nice, but several things are bothering me. No adjustable droop, reversed ackerman stock, and seriously, plastic lowerdeck and carbon upperdek? :down:


I know about the Ackerman, I want to see how it drives and adjust it. There are droop screws. Its on the upper arms. For $325 for complete kit I understand why they went for plastic tub chassis. I'm planning on getting the CF upgrade and aluminum bulkheads.

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Calzone wrote:Looks nice, but several things are bothering me. No adjustable droop, reversed ackerman stock, and seriously, plastic lowerdeck and carbon upperdek? :down:


The reversed ackerman could be because of the picture being taken from the rear of the front bulkheads.

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What caster setting did you go with? 4, 7, 10, and 14 that's pretty good adjustability out of the box :up:


Thanks tokeyo83!!! I went with stock settings for now. It is 7 degree of caster, but yes it is easily adjusted.
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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby Satanasso » Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:13 pm

very nice!
is it a copy of the Spice Desire SRD01 ?
which are the shop that sell the MST?
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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby Murdock » Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:02 pm

Satanasso wrote:very nice!
is it a copy of the Spice Desire SRD01 ?
which are the shop that sell the MST?


Not a copy. Spice is getting them from MST.
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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby Satanasso » Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:33 pm

Murdock wrote:
Satanasso wrote:very nice!
is it a copy of the Spice Desire SRD01 ?
which are the shop that sell the MST?


Not a copy. Spice is getting them from MST.


really?? :o
where did u buy the MST?
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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby SaFen » Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:46 pm

Well, I'd suggest to try this kind of new chassis first.
Having carbon, aluminum and plastic in the right places will give you exactly that kind of flex that you need and that's the idea MST is trying to show. I use the pro and right now I wouldn't want to change the lowerdeck.
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I saw most of the MST staff use the stock lowerdeck. They have a reason why. Think about it! :up:

But I guess it's ok, people here in Germany are also having a hard time understanding how this materialmix can work. But it does! People who just want to have fun without spending hours on the side setting up the shox will really enjoy this kind of chassis.
You pros know that, the harder/ stiffer the chassis, the more exact you need to setup your shox. By making the bottom softer and the top harder stress is taken away from the suspension.

Don't get me wrong, I've spent quite some time on the setup (big thanks to the MST boss who gave me some great advice!) but this chassis doesn't feel nervous when it comes to bumps, elevations or slightly uneven surfaces.

Just my two cents.

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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby Murdock » Tue Oct 04, 2011 5:21 pm

Satanasso wrote:really?? :o
where did u buy the MST?


I got it directly from MST as I am Sponsored by them!

@ SaFen - I agree with you regarding the flex. I think even with CF main chassis it will still have flex. The narrow width of the chassis along with not many achor screws for the top brace will allow it to have flex. Have you tried the CF upgrade kit?
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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby tamiya » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:14 pm

how's those blue shocks compared to genuine TRFs?

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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby Murdock » Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:22 pm

tamiya wrote:how's those blue shocks compared to genuine TRFs?


I think they are almost the same but without the coating. They feel very similar in quality.
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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby chrisrex » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:48 pm

Where can you find this chasiss here on the west coast ? As I'm not sponsored like you haha

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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby Murdock » Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:48 pm

Send me a PM and I can give you the info on how to get one.
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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby SaFen » Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:44 am

Off course the CF parts will have flex. What I meant was that with this kind of materialmix an average user could get a better result than with a full CF chassis plus saving some serious money! ;)
A pro would want to get the whole range of aftermarket parts since he's got the time, money and skills to use them.

I only use the CF parts that come along with the pro model. But I've added the aluminum bulkheads and c-hubs and I'm really happy so far (and I've been drifting for some time now). Like i said, when the track has some elevations (bridges etc.) in it, CF chassis need quite some time on the side to adjust while I can (mostly) continue to enjoy the track. :roll:
The MST boss' chassis feels so stable!!! Especially good for group drifting!

One thing that I'm curious about the CF lowerdeck though is the option to change the battery position, giving you more room to adjust that chassis' performance to your liking. Probably going to check that out soon.

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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby Murdock » Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:20 pm

I agree that out of the box its nice already. I just like CF and aluminum so I want to have a fully hopped up MS-01D. I got all the parts together so I will be adding some more pics and my full review.
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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby nickvig » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:28 pm

Is there a reason why you don't just post how or when this chassis is going to be available?
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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby Murdock » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:55 pm

nickvig wrote:Is there a reason why you don't just post how or when this chassis is going to be available?


PM me and I can give you the details on how to get one!
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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby Murdock » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:00 pm

MST MS-01D Pro Kit Full Review

Kit Impression
The Kit came very well packaged, accompanied by an assembly manual in English and Chinese. All the parts bags were nicely labeled and there were no issues with missing parts. The pictures in the manual are very clear, and the screws that are pictured are exactly to scale. There is a significant amount of aluminum parts, along with carbon fiber top braces. The wheels that came with the kit are 3mm offset, and resemble a JDM style wheel while still having a unique look. It comes with solid urethane tires. I was fortunate to get two different sets Red Dot and Silver Dot. The Silver Dot seemed to be the harder compound out of the two so I will start my testing on them. The suspension is a double A-Arm design with the use of ball end collars rather than an axle to pivot on. I like this design a lot! The Front One Way that come standard with the kit, and the optional counter steer kit is just another added bonus. Not to mention Adjustable blue turn buckles. Those are some of the stock equipment on the MS-01D Pro. I also got with my kit a Hop Up Steering rack adding more steering angle, and Solid Rear Axle made of 7075 Aluminum. The shocks look similar to a TRF style design, but they come pre-assembled minus the shock oil. It made finishing the build a relatively easy process. To say I am impressed is an understatement, I am Amazed with the MST product!

Overall Chassis Build Process (4 out of 5 Stars)
The build took a little under 7 hours, approximately 6.9 hours. The bulk of the build took about 5 hours. Adding the electronics took a little fine tuning and property management. The MS-01D has a really narrow chassis, and unlike under mid front drift chassis. It's about the same width the length of the chassis very similar to the DRB. What’s also similar to the DRB is the steering rack, but MST uses their own unique design. That's one thing that catches your attention when you are building this car... The Unique design, layout, and overall look. The manual was easy to follow, but if you never built a kit before take your time.

Overall Quality of Materials and Parts (4 out of 5 Stars)
The plastic quality is nice. The molding is good quality. The plastic lack graphite mixture like some of the higher end Yokomo parts, but the quality is still better then most. I never got the feeling the kit was before high end quality. The aluminum is the very nice as well. All the parts exactly how it should. the thread pitch was nice, and I ran in zero issues assembling the aluminum parts. The Carbon Fiber top braces are a work of Art. The quality of the parts are equal to that of the VDF and/or DRB, the only items missing are aluminum bulkheads, and CF main chassis.

Overall Value (5 out of 5 stars)
The value is one of the highest selling points for the MS-01D Pro. With the MSRP being $359 USD you get the a lot of nice parts for a great value. If you compared it to the other top of the line mid front chassis out there the MST MS-01 D Pro is the best bang for your buck! You can always upgrade to the aluminum bulkheads and CF main chassis later. Without any hop ups its still a great performer!

Conclusion (4.5 out of 5 Stars)
In conclusion I am very excited to be driving the MS-01D Pro for the 2012 Drift Season. The overall unique kit design, and quality of materials and parts have got me hooked on the MST brand. The soon to be released new parts and the new design idea for a "true" front motor mount deigns is exiting! On my first test drive the chassis was so predictable, and light feeling under throttle and steering. I ran my test with 54% CS, and it felt like home. Without any tuning the car felt instantly alive with sick angle and controllable whip out. The center balance on this chassis is very nice. the drive train feel smooth and quiet. This kit is great for all skill levels. Novice will like the chassis for ease of control, and Experts will like the amount of aluminum along with the added CS kit that give you 50%, 60%, and 80% CS ratios. I strongly believe that the MS-01D Pro is a strong contender against the likes of the VDF, DRB, and R31.

Finishing the build. Bag O includes Servo horn parts.
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Finished Chassis with Electronics.
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Servo mounted with stock Servo Saver.
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Low Friction belt tensioner.
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Upgraded Steering Rack.
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Solid Rear Axle 7075 Aluminum!
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The CF Top braces are lazer cut!
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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby tokeyo83 » Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:44 pm

Great write up :up: Thanks |O|
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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby Murdock » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:24 pm

Thanks for reading and looking tokeyo83! :up:
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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby miguel300477 » Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:13 pm

A Great Chassis.

I want some also. - Already PM you Murdock

Already have R31 carbon, but that one is just great chassis.

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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby Murdock » Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:44 pm

I replied to your PM. Please let MST know Harris sent you to them. :)
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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby nickvig » Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:07 pm

Murdock wrote:I replied to your PM. Please let MST know Harris sent you to them. :)


I did that but no response. They came back immediately and said they'd point me in the direction of a hobby shop that carries them but I've not seen any response after I told them where I was located.

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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby miguel300477 » Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:43 am

I have the info i needed. Thanks Murdock.

Very soon i will have them in Europe.

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Re: Official Max Speed Tech MS-01D Pro Build and Resource Thread

Postby Murdock » Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:42 pm

Awesome miguel! Im glad I can help out.
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