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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby Tiger.T » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:46 am

Alright, I'll take note of that.
I tried CS about three years ago just before taking a break until now.
I had a TA-05 with a mild CS ratio so it was pretty easy to get into, that's why I was surprised how loose the D3 was compared to the TA.
I guess I'll cut the throttle by 50% to start with to avoid making endless doughnuts :lol:

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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby eunique » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:14 pm

cool..enjoy it !
that would be a good idea to reduce it...it should get easier to control that way
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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby TakeshiSkunk » Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:40 am

So after some fiddling around, I'm not particularly confident that a 1mm shim is going to do much for the center belt tension...but to clarify, what kind of tension should I be looking for here? I may just be expecting it to be tighter than it should be.

I got delayed a few days due to some freak back issues that sent me to a chiropractor, holding off placing my rcmart order to avoid needing to place multiples. I may run it up to my LHS at some point and just have someone look it over with me...I'm sure noone there knows anything about this chassis or CS setups or anything, but they should be able to give me some general advice for shimming and whatnot, right? Only issue with that is my work hours make it a little difficult to get out there while they're open.

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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby eunique » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:50 am

I made a quick vid of the new layout at my LHS carpet drift track

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m2OxL97NYSE
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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby eunique » Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:52 am

You can add to those shims..but u dont want the belt too tight. Not loose to where it skips teeth..but not too tight that it causes binding and motor heat issues.
Just dont want the belt to slap each other between top and bottom
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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby TakeshiSkunk » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:45 pm

It should at least not be visibly sagging, right? Like, if I push on the top until it touches the bottom there should be some reasonable resistance/tension on the belt? It just seems extremely loose as it stands, my only experience setting belts in RCs is tail rotor drives for RC helicopters though.

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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby eunique » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:18 pm

Right it should not be visibly sagging.
Make sure you have already tightened the bulkheads since that will tighten down the belts since that will be pulled by the pulleys.
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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby fanfarraum » Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:14 am

Hi boys

I need a help

I saw this parts for Sakura D3 on RCmart, and i need to put this on my SAKURA S

http://www.rcmart.com/3racing-sakd311pk ... _1419_1566
http://www.rcmart.com/3racing-sakd309pk ... _1419_1566
http://www.rcmart.com/3racing-sakd303pk ... _1419_1566

But i have a doubt, this parts are compatible with SAKURA S?

What is the dogbone below that i need to use to get 50° steering?
http://www.rcmart.com/3racing-sakd331-u ... _1419_1566
http://www.rcmart.com/3racing-driveshaf ... _1419_1566

Just for ilustrate this is my SAKURA S

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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby eunique » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:23 am

fanfarraum wrote:Hi boys

I need a help

I saw this parts for Sakura D3 on RCmart, and i need to put this on my SAKURA S

http://www.rcmart.com/3racing-sakd311pk ... _1419_1566
http://www.rcmart.com/3racing-sakd309pk ... _1419_1566
http://www.rcmart.com/3racing-sakd303pk ... _1419_1566

But i have a doubt, this parts are compatible with SAKURA S?

What is the dogbone below that i need to use to get 50° steering?
http://www.rcmart.com/3racing-sakd331-u ... _1419_1566
http://www.rcmart.com/3racing-driveshaf ... _1419_1566


All of those will work with the Sakura Zero S...I have a Zero S that is also CouterSteered and have it
posted in Driftmission.com
I have not updated it...my posts there shows the problems I was having with the rear..but finally sorted out the tensioner similar to what you have in rear.

I think the front lower arms on the Zero is a little different in length than D3 and might have problems
The SSKs will NOT give you the widest angle possible but will get rid of chatter so I would go with the D331 for widest angle possible.

I am not using the D3 parts for my Zero S..I am using R31 front arms and steering to get the wider angle steering. I am still waiting to order longer wide angle CVDs since the ones I have are too short to reach the R31 knuckles.

here...
http://forum.driftmission.com/Thread-eu ... UniNRlyevE
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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby fanfarraum » Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:09 am

Tks for the help eunique.

I already bought the steering, c-hub, knuckle and dogbone from R31for my SAKURA S and i will build it this weekend (i have a R2 DEVIL that are donating parts for this adaptation)

I read the topic, my tensioner is a big adaptation but is working very well. As in Brazil is extremely expensive, we have to do a lot of strange adaptation ou wait 2 months for a RCmart order.

So, like you said, i will order next month this parts with D331 dogbone anda a graphite chassis (i have a lot of extra parts that i can build another SAKURA, so i did'nt stop runnning in adaptation time) and when the parts arrived a start a new topic about it.

THKs again for the help and when you update the topics send me a message.
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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby eunique » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:24 pm

No problem... I'll MSG you when I get that project completed

I am starting to learn to use this chassis better...was running 1.81 CS and now brought it up to 1.99 CS
with aluminum pulleys and practicing with that now on carpet drift track at my LHS.
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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby beardedmetal » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:19 pm

anybody know who has front one ways in stock for this thing ?????

cant find them anywhere, except hks and im not going down that road again.
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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby eunique » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:43 pm

You can get the Zero S FOW and just don't use the spacer that it comes with.
HKS doesn't have them in stock,,they will take your money and keep it even though the part is back ordered
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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby beardedmetal » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:47 am

yeah i know, noone has the FOW for the zero s either..
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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby eunique » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:30 am

I just checked all the ones I know...you might have to just wait until 3racing releases more.
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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby beardedmetal » Sat Apr 06, 2013 6:12 pm

anyone know if the ta05 diff will fit , it looks close.

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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby eunique » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:00 am

Looks like it should...just make sure the pulley is on the correct side as on a D3 since D3 is a front motor 3 belt design...so the front pulley is more on the right side (not in the middle)
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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby beardedmetal » Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:25 pm

good call.
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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby eunique » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:30 am

for some who are having a hard time trying to tame the rear and feel like they are just spinning...try wider offset rear wheels (compared to the front) even just that change will make a difference in handling.
plus, try changing one shock position at a time and see what the changes do...every little suspension change will affect the way she handles... just have fun with it and practice.
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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby beardedmetal » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:19 am

i found shock oil and springs make a huge difference as well.. and thats cheap to play with, plus deep offset in the rear looks tough.
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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby eunique » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:52 pm

Of course... oil and Springs are one of the first in tuning that needs to be considered.... I'm using 30wt oil all around, D3 blue Springs front and D3 purple Springs in the rear. ..I just wanted to suggest offset wheels as another way to add to tuning your ride.
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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby eunique » Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:40 pm

My new shell that I'm working on...

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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby Hornet » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:49 pm

I have a question.

I got my Sakura last week and put it all together just like the manuel says. But it doesn't run smoothly when you pull the car up and pul the belt.
I've double checked everything but couldnt find anything strange. Does anybody got this same problem or got the solution for it?

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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby eunique » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:46 pm

Do you mean that there is binding somewhere? Or the middle belt is loose?
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Re: 3 Racing Sakura D3 CS

Postby Hornet » Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:40 am

I think there is binding somewhere. And the middle belt is a bit loose. But I dont think thats the problem. I've heard that maybe I jused to many shims somewhere.


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